You don't speak german? No problem!

Hey community, I really don't like the fact that the community is nearly only german at the moment. I want Clonk to be known and of course be played internationally. You're not able to speak German and want to find people to play or develop with? No problem, most people here in the forums are able to speak English and would love to play with you. So don't be shy and start your topic right now, you'll be surprised by how many people will answer you :)!

i would like to play with someone, i am fairly new to Clonk but i played a long time ago. so i would like someone to explain to me how servers work and how we would play.

Which Clonk do you want to play? Clonk Rage or OpenClonk?

i play Rage, OpenClonk doesnt work for some reason, it just opens in a very small window and immidietly closes after that. but i would appreciate instructions to fix that.
i tried to uninstall, download with and without the soundtrack and run as an administrator. :cry:

Did you try the current development version? You can find it here: http://www.openclonk.org/nightly-builds/

It’s more up-to-date than the last release and your problems might have been fixed in the meantime

oh, thanks, i did not notice where the nightly builds were, thanks for pointing out, ill try it now.

it doesnt work, are there other options i can try to solve this issue?
EDIT: also, my computer counts as all the clonk files like "Worlds", "Fanstasy" "Missions" "Characters" and other stuff like that as an OCF file, means it cannot find a correct program to open it with, this might be the case but its the same with Clonk Rage files but that works fine. any ideas?

>it doesnt work, are there other options i can try to solve this issue?


Yes, you could check the logfile for problems.

You can find it (usually, on windows) in C:\Users\<yourname>\AppData\Roaming\OpenClonk with the name "OpenClonk.log"

ok, i found it, i found a file called "OpenClonk" as a text document. it says:

[18:57:32] OpenClonk
[18:57:32] Version: 8.0-alpha win win-x86 (a3b387dc3072 - 2017-10-26 01:20:03 +0200)
[18:57:32] ExePath: "B:\Games\OpenClonk&quot;
[18:57:32] SystemDataPath: "B:\Games\OpenClonk&quot;
[18:57:32] UserDataPath: "C:\Users\Igor\AppData\Roaming\OpenClonk&quot;
[18:57:32] Command line: B:\Games\OpenClonk\openclonk.exe
[18:57:32]   gl: Create first context…
[18:57:32]   gl: Error choosing pixel format
[18:57:32]   gl: GetLastError() = 127 - РќРµ найдена указанная процедура.
[18:57:32]   gl: Microsoft Corporation
[18:57:32]   gl: GDI Generic
[18:57:32]   gl: 1.1.0
[18:57:32]   gl: GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture
[18:57:32] GL  on  ()
[18:57:32]   gl: Error creating secondary context!
[18:57:32]   gl: GetLastError() = 0 - Операция успешно завершена.
[18:57:32]   gl: (null)
[18:57:32]   gl: (null)
[18:57:32]   gl: (null)
[18:57:32]   gl: (null)

UNHANDLED EXCEPTION
Build Identifier: org.openclonk.autobuild.8eec807c-d7c1-40c9-8741-a20976db12c3
A crash dump may have been written to C:\Users\Igor\AppData\Roaming\OpenClonk\openclonk-crash-2017-11-04-15-57-32.dmp
If this file exists, please send it to a developer for investigation.
****
EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION: The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
This is a continuable exception.
Additional information for the exception: The thread caused an user-mode DEP violation at address 0x1194607415.

Processor registers (x86):
EAX: 0x22478850, EBX: 0x00000000, ECX: 0x10799136, EDX: 0x00000000
ESI: 0x11029736, EDI: 0x22630976
EBP: 0x03865480, ESP: 0x03865308, EIP: 0x1194607415
EFLAGS: 0x00010202 (…)

Stack contents:
0x03865040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865056: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865072: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865104: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865136: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865152: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865168: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865184: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865200: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865216: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865232: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    …
0x03865248: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e8 39 a5 87 12 00 57 01    …и9Ґ…W.
0x03865264: 25 50 62 4b 00 00 00 80 e8 39 a5 87 00 00 00 00    %PbK…и9Ґ…
0x03865280: 04 00 00 00 34 fd ff ff e4 02 00 00 34 fd ff ff    …4эяяд…4эяя
0x03865296: cc 02 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 09 01    М…яя…
0x03865312: 00 00 00 00 70 4d a8 00 00 00 00 00 4c fb 3a 00    …pMЁ…Lы:.
0x03865328: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 40 52 59 01    …P…@RY.
0x03865344: 50 00 00 00 10 f2 4d 01 62 e4 4e 01 20 fb 3a 00    P…тM.bдN. ы:.
0x03865360: b5 dd 0b 01 d0 fa 3a 00 c8 cf ba 00 00 00 00 00    µЭ…Ръ:.ИПє…
0x03865376: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40 52 59 01 d1 c6 09 01    …@RY.СЖ…
0x03865392: 40 52 59 01 c0 50 59 01 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    @RY.АPY…
0x03865408: 10 0a 00 00 b8 fb ba 00 e8 4c a8 00 ac fb 3a 00    …ёыє.иLЁ.¬ы:.
0x03865424: ff ff ff ff 78 be a5 00 70 c0 a5 00 dc dc ba 00    яяяяxѕҐ.pАҐ.ЬЬє.
0x03865440: 78 be a5 00 10 f2 4d 01 ce df 4e 01 80 fb 3a 00    xѕҐ…тM.ОЯN…ы:.
0x03865456: 26 c7 09 01 30 fb 3a 00 74 fe 3a 00 00 00 00 00    &З…0ы:.tю:…
0x03865472: 00 00 00 00 40 52 59 01 a8 fc 3a 00 e1 c7 09 01    …@RY.Ёь:.бЗ…
0x03865488: 40 52 59 01 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00    @RY.яяяяяяяя…
0x03865504: 02 00 00 00 e8 4c a8 00 80 dc ba 00 4c fc 3a 00    …иLЁ…Ьє.Lь:.
0x03865520: ff ff ff ff 10 f2 4d 01 ae 56 4f 01 40 52 59 01    яяяя.тM.®VO.@RY.
0x03865536: 00 00 00 00 10 f2 4d 01 d4 df 4e 01 e0 fb 3a 00    …тM.ФЯN.аы:.
0x03865552: 11 c8 09 01 90 fb 3a 00 01 00 00 00 40 42 0f 00    .И…ы:…@B

Stack trace:
#  0 0x47344337
#  1 openclonk+0xdffff
#  2 openclonk+0xdc7e1
#  3 openclonk+0x17d8
#  4 openclonk!alutSleep+0x21fcf6
#  5 openclonk+0x13e2
#  6 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x12
#  7 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0xef
#  8 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0xc2

Loaded modules:
                   openclonk.exe loaded at 0x16515072 - 0x23846912 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\openclonk.exe)
                       ntdll.dll loaded at 0x2008350720 - 0x2009665536 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll)
                    kernel32.dll loaded at 0x1994719232 - 0x1995587584 (C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll)
                  KERNELBASE.dll loaded at 0x1975713792 - 0x1976020992 (C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll)
                     Qt5Core.dll loaded at 0x1720975360 - 0x1726296064 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\Qt5Core.dll)
                    ADVAPI32.dll loaded at 0x1979056128 - 0x1979711488 (C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll)
                      msvcrt.dll loaded at 0x2009923584 - 0x2010628096 (C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll)
                     sechost.dll loaded at 0x1994588160 - 0x1994690560 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll)
                      RPCRT4.dll loaded at 0x1980956672 - 0x1981620224 (C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll)
                         MPR.DLL loaded at 0x1930821632 - 0x1930895360 (C:\Windows\system32\MPR.DLL)
                       ole32.dll loaded at 0x2004877312 - 0x2006302720 (C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll)
                       GDI32.dll loaded at 0x2001272832 - 0x2001592320 (C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll)
                      USER32.dll loaded at 0x1978138624 - 0x1978961920 (C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll)
                         LPK.dll loaded at 0x1978990592 - 0x1979031552 (C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll)
                       USP10.dll loaded at 0x2006319104 - 0x2006962176 (C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll)
                     SHELL32.dll loaded at 0x1981677568 - 0x1994567680 (C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll)
                     SHLWAPI.dll loaded at 0x2002452480 - 0x2002808832 (C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll)
                      WS2_32.dll loaded at 0x1980301312 - 0x1980518400 (C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll)
                         NSI.dll loaded at 0x2010710016 - 0x2010734592 (C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll)
                       zlib1.dll loaded at 0x1661468672 - 0x1661599744 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\zlib1.dll)
                      Qt5Gui.dll loaded at 0x06029312 - 0x10506240 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\Qt5Gui.dll)
                    OPENGL32.DLL loaded at 0x1727725568 - 0x1728544768 (C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.DLL)
                       GLU32.dll loaded at 0x1727528960 - 0x1727668224 (C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll)
                       DDRAW.dll loaded at 0x1726545920 - 0x1727492096 (C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll)
                    DCIMAN32.dll loaded at 0x1939079168 - 0x1939103744 (C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll)
                    SETUPAPI.dll loaded at 0x2002845696 - 0x2004537344 (C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll)
                    CFGMGR32.dll loaded at 0x1975386112 - 0x1975545856 (C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll)
                    OLEAUT32.dll loaded at 0x1979711488 - 0x1980297216 (C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll)
                      DEVOBJ.dll loaded at 0x1974992896 - 0x1975066624 (C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll)
                      dwmapi.dll loaded at 0x1947795456 - 0x1947873280 (C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll)
                 libpng16-16.dll loaded at 0x1758724096 - 0x1758982144 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libpng16-16.dll)
             libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll loaded at 0x1829502976 - 0x1829990400 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll)
                  Qt5Widgets.dll loaded at 0x23855104 - 0x30023680 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\Qt5Widgets.dll)
                    OpenAL32.dll loaded at 0x1803550720 - 0x1804161024 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\OpenAL32.dll)
                       WINMM.DLL loaded at 0x1928658944 - 0x1928863744 (C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.DLL)
                     dbghelp.dll loaded at 0x1443299328 - 0x1444261888 (C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll)
               libfreetype-6.dll loaded at 0x1652293632 - 0x1653026816 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libfreetype-6.dll)
                    IPHLPAPI.DLL loaded at 0x1941700608 - 0x1941815296 (C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL)
                      WINNSI.DLL loaded at 0x1941635072 - 0x1941663744 (C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL)
                  libjpeg-62.dll loaded at 0x1716518912 - 0x1716891648 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libjpeg-62.dll)
             libvorbisfile-3.dll loaded at 0x1801191424 - 0x1801261056 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libvorbisfile-3.dll)
                 libvorbis-0.dll loaded at 0x1836318720 - 0x1836519424 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libvorbis-0.dll)
                    libogg-0.dll loaded at 0x1887961088 - 0x1888022528 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libogg-0.dll)
                     libSDL2.dll loaded at 0x1747451904 - 0x1748332544 (B:\Games\OpenClonk\libSDL2.dll)
                       IMM32.DLL loaded at 0x2009726976 - 0x2009853952 (C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL)
                       MSCTF.dll loaded at 0x2001600512 - 0x2002436096 (C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll)
                     VERSION.dll loaded at 0x1962934272 - 0x1962971136 (C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll)
                     uxtheme.dll loaded at 0x1950875648 - 0x1951137792 (C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll)
                UnlockerHook.dll loaded at 0x268435456 - 0x268455936 (C:\Program Files\Unlocker\UnlockerHook.dll)
                   CRYPTBASE.dll loaded at 0x1973878784 - 0x1973927936 (C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll)

i dont understand in any of this, what can i do?

and by the way, i would like to play Rage with you, i want to figure out how to complete Dragon Rock. maybe we can somehow add ourselves as friends here or something and we can chat?

You could join the IRC-Chatrooms for Clonk. I recommend #clonk-gamer or #clonk-tod-ingame there are the most active players for Clonk Rage.
There is also a Discord-Server for Clonk: https://discord.gg/ZPxe2Qr

thanks for the tip, i just played melee with someone and it was fun.

I am taking a wild guess and saying that you don't have a PC with a dedicated graphics card but are using an older Intel onboard graphics chip. Unfortunately, OpenClonk doesn't work on those as we require a newer version of OpenGL than these chip support. Even though the standard OpenClonk needs is from 2009.

Anyway, you can try get a newer driver for that chip but it's only a slim chance of it being able to run OC.

you are correct, that guess was too wild.
i am playing clonk on a laptop, so i cant really modify it whatsoever,
i do have a PC but its at Death's door, its no surprise since its older then me.

Like Clonkonaut says, that's a graphics card problem. Might be that your card is too old :/

>and by the way, i would like to play Rage with you, i want to figure out how to complete Dragon Rock. maybe we can somehow add ourselves as friends here or something and we can chat?


I don't think I'm going to play Clonk Rage anymore. I didn't even play much OC lately