# Clonk Rage won't start.
**URL:** https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826
**Category:** Help
**Created:** [31. März 2015 um 20:56 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826 "2015-03-31T20:56:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@MiawLykk](https://forum.clonkspot.org/u/MiawLykk)
#### Post date: [31. März 2015 um 20:56 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826/1 "2015-03-31T20:56:25Z")
I played Clonk Rage in 2009 maybe? And i recently found it again and tried installing it. But everytime i open the game nothing happens. If i run as adminestrator the game opens minimized. I click on the game and for a second or two i hear the music play and then i minimizes again. Does anyone know how to fix that if possible? Thanks
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### Author:  [@Luchs](https://forum.clonkspot.org/u/Luchs)
#### Post date: [31. März 2015 um 21:24 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826/2 "2015-03-31T21:24:55Z")
Try installing CR outside of the C:\Program Files\ directory, e.g. in C:\Clonk Rage. Clonk has issues with the access control mechanisms in newer Windows versions.
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### Author:  [@MiawLykk](https://forum.clonkspot.org/u/MiawLykk)
#### Post date: [31. März 2015 um 23:17 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826/3 "2015-03-31T23:17:31Z")
The game opens in minimized by itself now but it still just goes black plays some music and minimizes
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### Author:  [@Luchs](https://forum.clonkspot.org/u/Luchs)
#### Post date: [1. April 2015 um 11:30 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826/4 "2015-04-01T11:30:26Z")
Maybe there's an error message in the log file. Look for a "Clonk.log" file in your Clonk installation directory and paste its contents here. (If you can't find one there, it's probably in the AppData directory %APPDATA%\Clonk Rage\ or something like that.)
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### Author:  [@MiawLykk](https://forum.clonkspot.org/u/MiawLykk)
#### Post date: [1. April 2015 um 12:23 UTC](https://forum.clonkspot.org/t/clonk-rage-wont-start/826/5 "2015-04-01T12:23:44Z")
The Clonk Rage folder is empty and it's not in the other one either. Is there anywhere else it could be?
Edit: Found the file this is what it says
[14:20:42] Command line:
[14:20:42]
[14:20:42] Clonk Rage
[14:20:42] Version: 4.9.10.7 [330] win32
[14:20:42] No valid key file found.
[14:20:44] Loading graphics…
[14:20:45] Music: Frontend.ogg
[14:21:00] Game cleared.
[14:21:00] Engine shut down.